Tara Reid, crashing airplanes, and game developers - Page 2

Deshrill · 03-20-2004, 05:34 AM

I saw a clip of this on G4 and thought it was interesting. Some companies are identifying the designers (American McGee, Sid Meier), but, oddly enough, this was something EA did back in the 1980's when they were starting up; they had a magazine advertisement showing their group of game designers as visionaries.

This also brings to mind the whole "A Film By" argument where the credits will say "A Film By Steven Spielberg" even though it takes a crew of hundreds (if not thousands) of people to make a movie. Still, indentifying a game as "Shigeru Miyamoto's Legend of Zelda" is better than not mentioning anybody's name at all.

***Jackal*** · 03-20-2004, 07:23 AM

I KNOW the point Rubin is making.

It wasn't a very complicated concept. I'm making an entirely different point, which I thought was obvious by now. I was comparing PC and video games, and simply suggesting that PC games have historically had a slightly better handle on the concept Rubin's talking about, period. I didn't even remotely suggest they had arrived at the degree of name recognition Rubin is pushing for, as you seem to think I have.

But for the record, no - I also acknowledged two brand new games whose creators ARE featured prominently on the box covers, ads, etc.

Phantom · 03-20-2004, 08:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Singer

I KNOW the point Rubin is making.

It wasn't a very complicated concept. I'm making an entirely different point, which I thought was obvious by now. I was comparing PC and video games, and simply suggesting that PC games have historically had a slightly better handle on the concept Rubin's talking about, period. I didn't even remotely suggest they had arrived at the degree of name recognition Rubin is pushing for, as you seem to think I have.

But for the record, no - I also acknowledged two brand new games whose creators ARE featured prominently on the box covers, ads, etc.

Sorry, my bad. I thought the post I commented on was your first one in this topic, but apparently you made one earlier.

Mattsius · 03-23-2004, 02:30 PM

Thanks mag for sharing the file.

It was a very interesting speech and I, like others have mentioned before me, did agree with him on many levels and I think that the gaming industry is in need of a serious change towards a more developer centered system.
I've had the exact same thoughts as Jason seems to have had about making some high person in every developer company a public figure who would be well known. One problem is of course that many people that work for game developers are more or less geeks and maybe therefore aren't good at talking in front of cameras and stuff. And there are probably also many who don't won't to be famous at all, because fame has it's downsides you know.
But it's good that Jason Rubin took up these matters to debate, because a debate is needed, that's for sure.

03-20-2004, 05:34 AM	#21
Deshrill Senior Member Last Online: 11-15-2005 07:45 PM Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Savannah, GA Posts: 260	I saw a clip of this on G4 and thought it was interesting. Some companies are identifying the designers (American McGee, Sid Meier), but, oddly enough, this was something EA did back in the 1980's when they were starting up; they had a magazine advertisement showing their group of game designers as visionaries. This also brings to mind the whole "A Film By" argument where the credits will say "A Film By Steven Spielberg" even though it takes a crew of hundreds (if not thousands) of people to make a movie. Still, indentifying a game as "Shigeru Miyamoto's Legend of Zelda" is better than not mentioning anybody's name at all. __________________ "How many good books suffer neglect through the inefficiency of their beginnings!" --Edgar Alan Poe

03-20-2004, 07:23 AM	#22
*Jackal* Hopeful skeptic Last Online: 09-18-2013 05:02 PM Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Toronto Posts: 7,743	I KNOW the point Rubin is making. It wasn't a very complicated concept. I'm making an entirely different point, which I thought was obvious by now. I was comparing PC and video games, and simply suggesting that PC games have historically had a slightly better handle on the concept Rubin's talking about, period. I didn't even remotely suggest they had arrived at the degree of name recognition Rubin is pushing for, as you seem to think I have. But for the record, no - I also acknowledged two brand new games whose creators ARE featured prominently on the box covers, ads, etc.

03-23-2004, 02:30 PM	#24
Mattsius Mostly absent Last Online: 01-31-2010 07:28 PM Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Turku, Finland Posts: 2,532	Thanks mag for sharing the file. It was a very interesting speech and I, like others have mentioned before me, did agree with him on many levels and I think that the gaming industry is in need of a serious change towards a more developer centered system. I've had the exact same thoughts as Jason seems to have had about making some high person in every developer company a public figure who would be well known. One problem is of course that many people that work for game developers are more or less geeks and maybe therefore aren't good at talking in front of cameras and stuff. And there are probably also many who don't won't to be famous at all, because fame has it's downsides you know. But it's good that Jason Rubin took up these matters to debate, because a debate is needed, that's for sure.